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Monday, June 8, 2015

Go Motorboard 2000X with New 18650 Battery Pack: Much Better than the Original !

As many of you know, the Go Motorboard 2000X was my first EV, purchased 8 years ago back in 2007, and I enjoyed a lot riding it with the kids, commuting with it, etc


But these last years, as the original 14V 8Ah NiMH Battery pack grew older, the range and power were just not the same anymore, and we had to charge it right before using it, because it was self discharging :(



Because they are lighter, only the kids would use it, me - not so heavy with 67kg - on it, I would have to help and riding carefully not to go quickly in yellow, and red, sign of a low voltage after few kilometers ...


For several years I had the idea of replacing the battery pack, but when early January 2015 I got several 18650 cells from discarded laptops packs on my hands, I thought the time had finally come to make this move :)





So after 3 months of tidious work charging, discharging, timing them, ranking them by capacity, I finally made a new pack for the 2000X using 4 modules of 8 18650 cells in parallel - a 4S 8P configuration - with Panasonic cells; Why 8 in parallel ? because, that fits perfectly under the wooden deck, and 4 modules in series because that gives roughly the same voltage as the original NiMH pack



- Pack Voltage = 4 x 3.7V =  14.8V nominal same as 14.4V NiMH
- Pack Capacity = 8 x 2Ah = 16Ah (roughly) so we doubled the original 8Ah with NiMH !

Of course each module gathers 8 cells with a total discharge time equivalent the the others: they roughly have the same capacity


To make each module, I aranged them in 2 rows of 4 cells, and soldered each terminal to a small wire linking it the a 2.5mm2 solid copper bus wire, so we have the cell level fuse concept as what Tesla does in its battery packs (for the Roadster, Model S, PowerWall, etc)



As usual, when the pack is made, I take time to Bottom Balance each Module, before charging or discharging it; This is performed automatically by my Low Cost Bottom Balancer, used on every project for several years


After that, I perform a full charge of the pack; For this, I used a regular laptop power supply and had to watch for the limit voltage of 16.6V (4 x 4.2V) and I eventually found the perfect one, and old Compaq one that provides 16.5V, so when the battery reaches this voltage, no more Energy is being pushed into it, and the charge safely ends ...

On the picture above, I replaced to original 3-pin charge connector with this 12V standard barrel jack one, perfect for the power supply too :)

Also I made a custom wooden extra flat support for the 4 modules, held separately in place firmly inside the aluminum body



My first test spinning the rear wheel was an anjoyable moment :

Here is the new pack, wired into the Go Motorboard controller, using the original plug, in my "battery lab" at home:



For the first few weeks, I attach a voltmeter to the handle bar to be able to follow voltage while charging, voltage drop while riding, etc

Charging


Riding



City test ride; As soon as the weather allowed it, I went outside for a ride, at night fall I remember, going around the block and more, slowly first, watching the voltage, then faster and fatser and I rediscovered the sensations I had 8 years ago using it with its brand new battery: Power and Torque were back ! that was very cool :)

BTW, so were the cells, very cool, after 20mn ride, no heat at all, simply amazing !


The next day, a saturday, my daughter and I rode together - 90kg total -, all the way down to the Boulogne's cityhall, few kilometers, did some testing over there, came back up home, and still had a green light (!!); The new pack has clearly a lot in its guts !


The next day, crusing around Boulogne again, for like 1h 30mn, and still green light, incredible - I really pushed it this time -



Now we take it every staurday for lunch and afternoon in Paris, and everybody gets to ride it, it's a lot of fun





So now this puppy is back to life, re-born and even better than the original !

Monday, January 26, 2015

New Project : Re-use 18650 Lithium-ion Cells from Discarded Laptop Battery packs

Early 2015, I started a new project: Re-use cells from discarded laptop battery packs

I got a lot of them from the battery trash at work and some on eBay after looking at Jehu Garcia's work to try build cheap battery packs, first to replace the aging NiMH one in my Electric Go Motorboard 2000X, and maybe for another Energy Storage System at Home ....  A 3rd one, yes ;)





I am very excited about this new cell format and discovering how to work with it along the way;
Also you probably know that this is the cell Tesla uses to build its Roadster and Model S packs, with 7,000 Panasonic cells in a Model S ....



Opening the laptop battery case is more or less difficult, and I have to be carefull no to short circuit anything during the process; Inside the cells are mostly made by Panasonic and Samsung SDI, with various external insulation colors (different generations of cells probably)


Every pack has 3, 6 or 9 cells, in 1P, 2P, or 3P and always 3S configuration to have a common 3 x 3.7V = 11.1V nominal





This 18650 cell is to be charged at 4.2V maximum using a ususal Constant Current & Contant Voltage Charger

Guess what's inside ? an "over-engineered" - Jack Rickard's language - PCB / BMS with leads to every group of cells in parallel, and as usual I don't think it is very usefull - apart from the thermal sensor(s) - and in many cases it damaged cells trying to bablance them on top while charging ... the same old story => there are going to trash / recycle because I won't need these at all
An example this morning: out of 6 cells, 2P 3S, a set of 2P is at 0.05V and all the rest is at 3.7V .... where does this come from ? (answer the BMS, which in this case can be called a Battery Murdering System !)


As usual, I am using my good old Low Cost Bottom Balancer, used on all my others battery chemistry projects: Mottcell 39Ah, CALB CA180FI, LEAF Battery Modules, and now 18650; The 2 first the bottom balance voltage was set to 2.75V, and the 2 last to 3.0V (but could be 2.75V too as Jack Rickard did bottom balance his LEAF Modules from the Renault Fluenze Better Place to 2.75V per half module)



Like Jehu, I find out that some cells are close to 0V, some around 4V, and all over the place in between of course ...
When the cell is showing a lower voltage than 3.0V, I charge it to go beyond this value and then proceed to the bottom balancing phase, and all cells are then stored at 3.0V in a box, filling up slowly


Most of the cells originally had between 2 to 2.4Ah of capacity, but they are used, so the real / remaining capacity is the question here ...

I started charging using a eSmoke charger - charges to 4.2V - but it is way to slow for me,



so I siwtched a to 12V lead-acid 2.7A battery charger (Mascott from Norway, a pretty good charger BTW)


To see the current drawned and pushed in the 18650 cells, I wired an analog Ampmeter, and I am discharging at 4A, which is 2C, and charging at 2A, which is 1C



With this setup, I can quickly see in few seconds if a cell has a lot or not so much, or not any more capacity left, as it will show "resistance" on the charging and/or discharging side




A little bit is done at night when I am back home, a liitle bit in the morning before leaving to work, and most of it during the week end; It is taking time but I like it - picture taken yesterday -



Stay tuned for more in Episode 2 ....

Saturday, April 5, 2014

Solar Charging everything at Home

The sun is back and here is an overview of solar charging going on at home : Rechargeable Batteries, iPhones, iPads, Energy Storage System, Go Motorboard 2000X, etc




Sunday, March 9, 2014

The Go Motorboard is out in sunny Paris

The sun is back here in Paris and yesterday we took the Go Motorboard 2000X out for a ride



Kids love it, and they can still be two on it













2 compasses are better than one




and back in the LEAF

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