Showing posts with label cell voltage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cell voltage. Show all posts

Monday, June 8, 2015

Go Motorboard 2000X with New 18650 Battery Pack: Much Better than the Original !

As many of you know, the Go Motorboard 2000X was my first EV, purchased 8 years ago back in 2007, and I enjoyed a lot riding it with the kids, commuting with it, etc


But these last years, as the original 14V 8Ah NiMH Battery pack grew older, the range and power were just not the same anymore, and we had to charge it right before using it, because it was self discharging :(



Because they are lighter, only the kids would use it, me - not so heavy with 67kg - on it, I would have to help and riding carefully not to go quickly in yellow, and red, sign of a low voltage after few kilometers ...


For several years I had the idea of replacing the battery pack, but when early January 2015 I got several 18650 cells from discarded laptops packs on my hands, I thought the time had finally come to make this move :)





So after 3 months of tidious work charging, discharging, timing them, ranking them by capacity, I finally made a new pack for the 2000X using 4 modules of 8 18650 cells in parallel - a 4S 8P configuration - with Panasonic cells; Why 8 in parallel ? because, that fits perfectly under the wooden deck, and 4 modules in series because that gives roughly the same voltage as the original NiMH pack



- Pack Voltage = 4 x 3.7V =  14.8V nominal same as 14.4V NiMH
- Pack Capacity = 8 x 2Ah = 16Ah (roughly) so we doubled the original 8Ah with NiMH !

Of course each module gathers 8 cells with a total discharge time equivalent the the others: they roughly have the same capacity


To make each module, I aranged them in 2 rows of 4 cells, and soldered each terminal to a small wire linking it the a 2.5mm2 solid copper bus wire, so we have the cell level fuse concept as what Tesla does in its battery packs (for the Roadster, Model S, PowerWall, etc)



As usual, when the pack is made, I take time to Bottom Balance each Module, before charging or discharging it; This is performed automatically by my Low Cost Bottom Balancer, used on every project for several years


After that, I perform a full charge of the pack; For this, I used a regular laptop power supply and had to watch for the limit voltage of 16.6V (4 x 4.2V) and I eventually found the perfect one, and old Compaq one that provides 16.5V, so when the battery reaches this voltage, no more Energy is being pushed into it, and the charge safely ends ...

On the picture above, I replaced to original 3-pin charge connector with this 12V standard barrel jack one, perfect for the power supply too :)

Also I made a custom wooden extra flat support for the 4 modules, held separately in place firmly inside the aluminum body



My first test spinning the rear wheel was an anjoyable moment :

Here is the new pack, wired into the Go Motorboard controller, using the original plug, in my "battery lab" at home:



For the first few weeks, I attach a voltmeter to the handle bar to be able to follow voltage while charging, voltage drop while riding, etc

Charging


Riding



City test ride; As soon as the weather allowed it, I went outside for a ride, at night fall I remember, going around the block and more, slowly first, watching the voltage, then faster and fatser and I rediscovered the sensations I had 8 years ago using it with its brand new battery: Power and Torque were back ! that was very cool :)

BTW, so were the cells, very cool, after 20mn ride, no heat at all, simply amazing !


The next day, a saturday, my daughter and I rode together - 90kg total -, all the way down to the Boulogne's cityhall, few kilometers, did some testing over there, came back up home, and still had a green light (!!); The new pack has clearly a lot in its guts !


The next day, crusing around Boulogne again, for like 1h 30mn, and still green light, incredible - I really pushed it this time -



Now we take it every staurday for lunch and afternoon in Paris, and everybody gets to ride it, it's a lot of fun





So now this puppy is back to life, re-born and even better than the original !

Sunday, June 8, 2014

AESC / LEAF Battery Modules Voltage Check



Here is a voltage check of each half module of my 3 module pack after 3 months of charge + discharge: they are still all in balance, here at the bottom at 3.59V

Saturday, April 12, 2014

AESC / LEAF Battery Modules Voltage Check

After a little month of charging and discharging these 3 AESC modules wires in series, the half modules - and modules too - are perfectly in balance ...  No BMS required at all ... Like for LiFePO4 ...








Making a Charge Controller for the LEAF Battery Modules

During this week I stared building a Charge Controller for my AESC / LEAF Battery Modules
I have had this idea since last summer: build a simple, effective and safe Charge Controller for LiFePO4 cells, which is in fact a sub-system of my DIY ESS, taking care of the Battery pack charge and discharge functionality

Since the AESC Modules behave like LiFePO4, except for the voltage limits, this kind of controller ill work fine




It is composed of a Programmable Dual Relay Voltmeter, and 2 Tyco Kilovac Contactors, wires, and that's pretty much it !


I even had to read again the DIY ESS Kit documentation to see the wiring of the Voltmeter


and go through their manual to set up some additional values like the decimal point here



and I decided to set up the low voltage limit to : 3.6V x 6 half modules = 21.6V
and the high voltage limit to : 4.15V x 6 half modules = 24.9V (slightly under charge is always safer, since 4.2V is the target voltage on these Lithium Manganese cells)


Higher limit reached => the upper LED is lit and the high relay is open, which will open remove the power from the Charge Tyco Kilovac and stop the Charge .... so simple and effective


Tyco Kilovac not wired yet, but will be done later


and it should stay open until the value I entred is reached, I think it is 23.5V

Saturday, April 5, 2014

The LEAF Modules based Vectrix conversion to Lithium continues ...

Last night, I got an update of the conversion work carried by Soyouz76, from the famous French Vectrix forum Vectrix.fr



Few weeks ago he announced that he found out the perfect match in width and thickness of the AESC / LEAF battery modules to fit in the original Vectrix battery compartment



He now has finished wiring the 19 modules in series and is still working on charger software updates, even if I think there is no need for it; Also he wants to get install a voltmeter kind of gage to follow the modules' individual voltage and mentioned EVtv; Here again I think this is not necessary, because with a good Bottom Balancing, only the Pack voltage has to be monitored and I proved it with my series of test on these LEAF modules


Anyways, this conversion is very promising, keep on the good work ! 

Sunday, March 16, 2014

LEAF Battery Modules Charging for the First Time after Bottom Balancing

After Bottom Balancing my New LEAF Battery Modules for a week, I started Charging them using a small 100W LiFePO4 charger




Brand new LiFePO4 24V Charger, exact same one that I use in my DIY ESS



Stripped charger leads



Bottom Balanced at 3.00V with my bottom balancer, showing 3.01 with my voltmeter here, but what's important is that all the half modules are at the same voltage

Charging begins ...



Low wattage at the beginning of the charge because the battery pack is 18V


I am monitoring the voltage of all half modules during the charge process, and they are always going up together


Going up ...


here at 4V,  but I finally ended the charge process after 13h (more or less) and half module voltage of 4.01V, pack voltage of 24,06V


The funny thing is that, on sunday I watched EVtv latest episode, and Jack was showing his testing of charge and discharge on the same modules - from the Renault Fluence Better Place liquidation -

Monday, March 10, 2014

LEAF Battery Modules Bottom Balancing continues

Coming back from work tonight, I took a look at the LEAF modules and, as expected, realized that the voltage of each half module had raised, to a 3.5 to 3.7V



So I went for a third round of Bottom Balancing on them, until they reach 3V. It is a long process but has to be performed only once.

So far, I do not see much difference with the LiFePO4 cells, they behave pretty much like them













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